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It all feels like we're getting our old Charlton back.
Well done Parky ! -
Posted By: American_AddickParky or Curbs?
Brixton or Paris? Where do you want to go?
Seeing as I don't currently have a passport, Brixton will do for me. Similarly, given our current circumstances, I'm happy enough with Parky. -
- CommentAuthorcafc-4-life
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2009
Curbs could do a Harry from Portsmouth to Tottenham and leave for more money but still Parky as he deserves his chance atm -
- CommentAuthoroohaahmortimer
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2009
yep we should be grateful parky is our manager cos he could have left !!
i mean in my wildest dreams/nightmares(since curbs left) i could never have thought that i would be so happy after beating wycombe and hartlepool , so for that small mercy , thank you ever so much PP keep up the great work -
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CommentAuthorBarn Door Varney
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2009
"It's just a question which needs asking, Curbs is a club legend, agreed, Parky isn't.........................................................YET!!!"
No it isn't, he's won 2 games FFS!!
There's no comparrision to be made. If on the strength of 2 games people would rather stick with Parky than get someone with a proven track record at all levels of the game then fair enough. If it was me, I'd welcome Curbishley back with open arms. -
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- CommentAuthorOn-Me-Head
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2009
Wish I had your vivid and lively imagination mascot -- LOL
But to answer your question...if Parky was doing well when the Takeover happened, then IMHO the decent thing would be to let him remain as manager – But with the way football is now run, when has DECENCY or morality ever been taken into consideration. So who knows? -
So same question.... interesting curbs was there as well.......
Imagine the takover happened 10 mins ago and have money and a willing curbishley waiting in the wings....
Would you want to fire parky and bring curbs back ...
Or keep Parky...
Im still in the parky stay camp... im starting to really like him... -
So what about now??
Im still behind Parky... -
- CommentAuthorRalphMilne
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
Would have to be Curbs for me , although im starting to warm parky. It would be a lot easier to answer this question after 20 games , 4 league wins on the trot is a fantastic start BUT as the saying goes.....Its a long old season. -
what a stupid question curbs all day long but i think he might being going upstairs if takeover happens director of football or whatever they call it nowadays after being overlooked for the england job and other numerous jobs i reckon he may be up for a different challenge .
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Curbs then. Parky now.
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- CommentAuthorExiled_Addick
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
If this was a month ago I'd say get Curbs back.
With only a week to go of the transfer window and us looking like a settled side I'd say keep Parky now. Although Parky has had his hands tied in the transfer market, this is still his squad as the one's he doesn't want have been released and the one's he wants have stayed. Who's to say Curbs would want to keep the same players? If he didn't it would mean yet more upheavel and that would be damaging imo.
The ships just started to level out on an even keel - lets not start rocking itn just for the sake of it.
Talkeover completed asap, 3 or 4 signings to deepen the squad in defence and attack (and left wing) and give Parky full backing - that should see us through to a good season imo.
Don't mind the idea of Curbs coming into the backroom to help act as a buffer between the board and the playing staff though. In fact he'd be well suited to that kind of role imo, as long as final say on playing decisions was left to Parky - he has a good eye for a player and always had a good understanding of working within a budget. P'raps if he'd been around in that role during Pards reign, the board wouldn't have been suckered into some of the silly deals that got signed. -
Hard one.
Parky deserves chance as he has won this league with Colchester before however Curbs well there is no replacement for Curbs the messiah. -
- CommentAuthorAmerican_Addick
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
I would have fired Parky after his 8-match spell as a caretaker.
I certainly would have fired him after the conclusion of last season. In either case, the grounds were easily justified by the record.
I would have replaced him during preseason, had the takeover gone through and the money was available.
But he is still in the job, and I wish him well.
I still have some serious doubts, but am pleased by the start. How much of it is due to Parky, and how much is down to the poor competition in the third division, is still very much in question.
If Parky gets us promotion, then he should be allowed to carry on, even with his previous failures at The Championship level. He would have earned it then.
But no promotion, and I will be firmly back in the "replace him" camp. -
Oh fudge off! Too early still to answer!
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- CommentAuthorWeegie Addick
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2009
I love Curbs to bits and would love him to come back - but not at the expense of Parky. I said at the end of last season that I could see lots of positives in what Parky was trying to do - now (yes, eventually) we are seeing that in results as well.
It would be disastrous to change that now - even for Curbs - just when some confidence and, remarkably, stability is returning to the playing side of the club at least.
To do what Parky has done, given the financial meltdown and rife takeover speculation all summer, is nothing short of remarkable. Imagine coping with that in your job! Appreciate it is still early days, but we are already genuine promotion contenders this season and could go from strength to strength.
And I'm certainly not going to argue with uncle on this matter. -
- CommentAuthorStuart the Red
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2009
A couple of seasons ago Curbs' name was being bandied about as a possible England manager. As great as my affections for the man are I don't think that dropping down to the 3rd tier are going to help him if it is his ambition to manage England one day. I suspect he is destined for a Premiership team when the first heads start to roll and he has sorted out his spat with West Ham. -
Posted By: Stuart the RedA couple of seasons ago Curbs' name was being bandied about as a possible England manager. As great as my affections for the man are I don't think that dropping down to the 3rd tier are going to help him if it is his ambition to manage England one day. I suspect he is destined for a Premiership team when the first heads start to roll and he has sorted out his spat with West Ham.
Agreed. Birmingham will sack McLeish if they start struggling. I expect Curbs to end up there. -
Posted By: dabos
Posted By: Stuart the RedA couple of seasons ago Curbs' name was being bandied about as a possible England manager. As great as my affections for the man are I don't think that dropping down to the 3rd tier are going to help him if it is his ambition to manage England one day. I suspect he is destined for a Premiership team when the first heads start to roll and he has sorted out his spat with West Ham.
Agreed. Birmingham will sack McLeish if they start struggling. I expect Curbs to end up there.
not a bad call ex player and always had a soft spot for them....
I remeber some obscure interview him saying how they deserve to be in the Prem.. etc....
Birmingham travelling okish so far... -
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CommentAuthorcarly burn
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
Parkinson has been impeccable these last few months,what with fans wanting him out and conditions created by the boardroom that i doubt Curbs ever experienced.Stick with him i say. -
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Posted By: carly burnParkinson has been impeccable these last few months,what with fans wanting him out and conditions created by the boardroom that i doubt Curbs ever experienced.Stick with him i say.
Right, Carly ...... good point.
Curbs always appeared to have 100% backing from the Board, worked interactively with them ........and always had total job security.
What a contrast to poor old beleaguered Parky ...... no resources, no tangible support from Board or fans - just a man putting his finger into the dyke until the club gets it's act together.
And despite all that and no money, not even knowing whether he's still got a job, he's put together a winning side with the best of what's left and crumbs from other club's tables. -
- CommentAuthoroohaahmortimer
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
i think if you draw 3 games lose 7 in your 'caretaker' period as manager when the club was in desperate need of a boost and you were part of the mismanagement that got charlton into this mess and you were given the job for whatever time it was i'd consider that backing from the boardroom -
Posted By: oohaahmortimeri think if you draw 3 games lose 7 in your 'caretaker' period as manager when the club was in desperate need of a boost and you were part of the mismanagement that got charlton into this mess and you were given the job for whatever time it was i'd consider that backing from the boardroom
Maybe last Christmas, but that's a long time ago now.
We're talking now and the past month or so.
Do you know if he'll still be in a job this Christmas or even next week?
I bet Parky doesn't. -
- CommentAuthoroohaahmortimer
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
well parky knows he's in a job now and he has been since last christmas these are facts everything else is guessing ... as for the future well we'll soon see
i think with him getting 4 wins he might feel more comfortable with his position than he did during his 'caretaker' period ... i know i would -
Posted By: Oggy Red just a man putting his finger into the dyke until the club gets it's act together.
No need to talk about the tea-lady like that. -
To be honest, I was scared to death of this season and as I was saying the first 5 were so important and hes really pushed us forward....
at points last year if we had played the kent amateur golf XI we would have lost....
another few games without us crumbling and we may have laid that ghost to rest....
if we beat tranmere (4th from bottom) I will be over the moooooon....
Id take a draw just to keep the run going....
However with the run we are on a draw could feel like a defeat.....
Daylight at the top would feel wonderful... -
Once Curbs has won his case against West Ham in November, he'll be appointed manager at Charlton before Christmas.
And Parkinson will be sacked for only taking Charlton to a 10 points lead at the top of the division.
Everybody else in football will be puzzled.
But not Ooh Aah.
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- CommentAuthoroohaahmortimer
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
lol oggy... if he gets us to a 10 point lead not even i would want curbs back................... (for the time being;-) -
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CommentAuthorBlackForestReds
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
At best what Parky has done is to unite and rejuvenate a club that was falling apart at the seams and may well have set the basis for a swift promotion back into the Championship.
At worst this is a false dawn and Parky has earnt himself a few more weeks of gainful employment, but I don't think so, I sense a unity and shared purpose that has been awol for the last two/three seasons.
I was against retaining him at the end of last season but he's conducted himself with great dignity, not easy given the circumstances on and off the pitch, and has worked hard and for that he deserves our respect and support. But for his/our sakes we need to get some players in and soon, this is the weakest squad that I can remember and if we don't strengthen it then when the inevitable injuries and suspensions kick-in we'll lose ground and I'd hate to see a potentially great season veer off course because we have to start playing kids fresh from the youth teams in key games. -
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Posted By: Oggy RedOnce Curbs has won his case against West Ham in November, he'll be appointed manager at Charlton before Christmas.
And Parkinson will be sacked for only taking Charlton to a 10 points lead at the top of the division.
Everybody else in football will be puzzled.
But not Ooh Aah.
;o)
Christ Oggy.... its so mental yet sane its so charlton.... it might just bloody happen....
so Parkinson keeps his job with the worst record in football history and then win 20 games in a row and gets fired....
yep defo charlton...
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CommentAuthorThreadKiller
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
hmmmm.....premiership manager or division three manager? parky looks the right man for the job down at this level. -
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Still Parky for me......
hes really had the lows and is now proving what he can do at this level..... -
As I've said in the past Parky isn't in the same league as Curbs but you are comparing 'apples & pears'.
Parky is however proving he is the man for the moment (like many others I thought he should have gone with Pardew). Witnessing first hand the events of yesterday at Prenton Park proved this to me and that I was too quick to blame him for being asociated with the Pardew era. Great spirt in the camp now and brilliant interaction with the fans. Never thought I would be hearing "Parky, Parky give us a wave". And he did!
Could he work alongside Curbs. I reckon so. -
Posted By: Chaz HillAs I've said in the past Parky isn't in the same league as Curbs but you are comparing 'apples & pears'.
Parky is however proving he is the man for the moment (like many others I thought he should have gone with Pardew). Witnessing first hand the events of yesterday at Prenton Park proved this to me and that I was too quick to blame him for being asociated with the Pardew era. Great spirt in the camp now and brilliant interaction with the fans. Never thought I would be hearing "Parky, Parky give us a wave". And he did!
Could he work alongside Curbs. I reckon so.
Yes I was hoping for a bit of goodwill for him....
just keep it together Parky.... -
Parky has got rid of the dead wood, this is something that Curbs can't do himself:
linky - Curbs exposed -
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CommentAuthorHenry Irving
- CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
Posted By: SaladParky has got rid of the dead wood, this is something that Curbs can't do himself:
linky - Curbs exposed
Someone going to cut down this hedgerow, why not us. -
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this question just seems more and more relevant, with porno king interested in us......
Id still absolutely keep Parky, hes been doing a blinding job, Id also give him access ro some money, but from a business sense Curbs is the FAR safer bet......
Potential for another club unrest ahead? Absolutely....
Imagine if Parky got us promoted and then got the chop to let Curbs in with all the money... very interesting times ahead.......
SO as the question asks....
Imagine the takover happened 10 mins ago and have money and a willing curbishley waiting in the wings....
Would you want to fire parky and bring curbs back ...
Or keep Parky... -
keep parkie. curbs is our history not our future on the management front. a sold upstairs maybe
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at the moment ... Parky
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- CommentAuthorJpb Junior
- CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
Parky in charge and curbs as Director of Football,. Parky deserves to be given a chance. It's his team and he should be left alone to get on with it. Besides it could also mean that Mervyn would return