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Yann Kermorgant - Saint or Sinner ?

I think it can safely be said that since his arrival at The Valley Yann has proved to be a resounding success on the pitch with some fine goals along with hardworking and courageous performances firmly cementing him as a fans favourite. It does seem though that Yann has a darker side that we catch glimpses of but seems to be kept solely for opposition players. We have seen Yann have a kick out and yesterday there have been suggestions of a head but although I certainly didn't see it. Surely it can't be any coincidence that there is now a list of players from our opponents that have felt the need to take Kermit by the throat but allcomers seem to have come of worse at least in the disciplinary sense. Is he a wind up ? A toe treader, an elbow digger a sledger ? Or just a misunderstood hardworking centre forward. Not had anyone in this mould at Charlton before to my knowledge at least not at this standard.
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  • Saint, love him to bits.
  • Sinner but we love it
  • Great player to have on our side, would not be a fan at all if he was an opposition player. Therefore atm at Saint.

    Does worry me sometimes that he may do something stupid and get a silly red card but so far so good this season.
  • He's French.
  • Saint.

    Glad for once we have someone who winds the opposition up but can also show the class.
  • Is he a wind up ? A toe treader, an elbow digger a sledger ?.

    He's just a professional footballer. A saint compared to footballing legends like Norman Hunter and Chopper Harris and more recently the likes of Alan "elbows" Shearer.

    As long as he doesn't deliberately injure anyone there's nothing wrong with mixing it up with the oppo a bit as I see it. Had enough of players in Charlton shirts flinching at their own shadows over the past few years and good to see someone with a pair of bollox getting stuck in for the cause and if he winds them up whilst doing it all the better.

    Tough French bastard and wind up merchant extraordinaire. Viva la Kermit.

  • Kerm and Haymer are two players that if you were the opposition or the opposition fans you would hate.
  • Saint and sinner, as so many of the best players are.

    Complete bastard if you're watching from the Jimmy Seed stand. The warrior king if you're watching from the other end!
  • Saint.

    A real 100%er
  • Most of the time that I have been following and supporting Charlton, we have been a 'nice team'. Whilst not advocating a 'get your retaliation in first' policy, to have someone in the team with a bit of arrogance and hard headedness (to put in mildly) like Kermorgant shows that we are not prepared to be bullied and kicked about and just take it lying down. The Curbishley side that I knew and loved the most had a few tough nuts: Mills, Youds, Bowen, Bright, Kinsella, none were averse to putting it about a bit. It would be nice to think that football is all about passing, hand shakes and 'well done old chaps' but it isn't and someone like Kermorgant is essential for any team that has designs on success. If the opposition know that they will not get away with kicking their way to a win they will be less likely to start. The USA & USSR back in the good old days of the 70s and 80s called it mutually assured destruction .. IF you get my drift
  • He's one of ours, so therefore a Saint. Centre Halves like to dominate Centre Forwards and they can't do that to Big Yann as he tends to win most things in the air. I would suspect he is more sinned against than Sinner.
  • its his garlic breath that gets 'em rattled!
  • is there any video up yet from the dons game or even just the kermorgant/mackenzie red card incident?
  • Love the man, my modern favourite.
  • I'm liking his style. Saint!
  • Adore the man but he's definitely got the unpleasant side of his game down. Remember Powell saying that when he spoke to Kerms he told him if he was going to sign him he'd have to change his attitude around others. I wonder if he did, or is he regularly getting nutted by Michael Morrison in training? Either way the class he has on the ball combined with his tendancy to inspire bloodlust in other players makes him extremely entertaining
  • One of my top three in the current team.
  • bloodnut said:

    its his garlic breath that gets 'em rattled!

    Allegedly he doesn't like being called Kermit. So perhaps there's a new nickname in there!
  • bloodnut said:

    its his garlic breath that gets 'em rattled!

    Allegedly he doesn't like being called Kermit. So perhaps there's a new nickname in there!
    Don't like em rattled ! No ring to it

  • No saint, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
  • bloodnut said:

    its his garlic breath that gets 'em rattled!

    Allegedly he doesn't like being called Kermit. So perhaps there's a new nickname in there!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than to be called Garlic Breath ;-)
  • He's French.

    He'll quite possibly tell you he's not.
  • SAINT......
  • He is a saintly sinner and I think he is an immense signing
  • He's a sinner. But he's OUR sinner!
  • As long as he's a winner, I don't care!
  • Oggy Red said:

    He's French.

    He'll quite possibly tell you he's not.
    Are you saying that he'd lie ? That definately makes him a sinner.

  • No question. He's a saint for us. Opponents probably don't think so but so what.
  • If any one has any doubt .Check out kermy;s goals in the french lge on You Tube.CLASS.....
  • Oggy Red said:

    He's French.

    He'll quite possibly tell you he's not.
    Are you saying that he'd lie ? That definately makes him a sinner.

    Ha ha!

    It's like trying to convince a Scot or a Welshman that they are English....!
    He's a Breton, of course.
  • Last time I checked Brittany was a region of France not a Country ?
  • More akin to a Cornishman being called an Englishman perhaps?


  • It's a weird thing with Brittany, it's considered culturally separate and has its own language, albeit not a widely spoken one. Case in point I asked a French co-worker about Kermorgant and he fairly sniffily told me Kermorgat isn't a French name, it's a Breton name. Seemed mildly offended at the two being considered the same


  • Garry that wasn't my quote, I had answered below that quote that Brittany was a region of France.

    The France/Breton thing is I guess the same as Catalan/Spain.....no matter what they think they are still Spanish.
    The Bretons have their own language but are not allowed to use it on things like road signs unless the French is also displayed.







  • Yes I know it wasn't your quote but the quote box has gone wrong on this one and I couldn't be bothered to fiddle with it. No-one's denying that Brittany is in France, it's just that regardless of how silly it seems, a Breton probably would be mortified to be called French, and the same with what you say about the Catalans. It's even more extreme with the Basques. I think it's Bilbao who try and ensure that they have an almost entirely Basque team, which is a policy that many would find pretty odd. I still do
  • Just as every cop is a criminal
    And all the sinners saints
    As heads is tails
    Just call me Lucifer
    Cause I'm in need of some restraint
    So if you meet me
    Have some courtesy
    Have some sympathy, and some taste
    Use all your well-learned politesse
    Or I'll lay your soul to waste
  • Is he a wind up ? A toe treader, an elbow digger a sledger ?.

    He's just a professional footballer. A saint compared to footballing legends like Norman Hunter and Chopper Harris and more recently the likes of Alan "elbows" Shearer.

    As long as he doesn't deliberately injure anyone there's nothing wrong with mixing it up with the oppo a bit as I see it. Had enough of players in Charlton shirts flinching at their own shadows over the past few years and good to see someone with a pair of bollox getting stuck in for the cause and if he winds them up whilst doing it all the better.

    Tough French bastard and wind up merchant extraordinaire. Viva la Kermit.

    Most kids throw toys out of the pram when they dont get their own way! He is a real handfull....legend

  • About time we had a forward like him. A real thorn in the opposition's side and have no issue with a few sins from him. He's likely to get sent off once before the end of the season, if he carries on and gets caught for a little kick out or the like, but an acceptable price to pay if he keeps getting us valuable free kicks, pens etc.

    Love this guy and though I feel sorry for Hayes (who deserves better), can't deny Kermy is top dog in this department.
  • The question implies that the two are mutually exclusive but they aren't. He is both saint and sinner but he is ours and I wouldn't swap him for any of the other strikers in this division (including Rhodes.) He never gives up and I love the way he harries defenders and if sometimes it is on the sly side, well we have had oppponents do similar things to us.
  • Like Hell Boy?
  • i think id prefer kandal and dickson ...

  • Other teams fans do tend to hate him, i personally cant see what he has done to deserve the stick he gets (couple of Wendys really went to town on him harshly imo) but he does seem to get under the oppo's skin. All good i say, i think he is fantastic, and i love him.

    Player of the season for me, just ahead of S dog and Morro.
  • He loves a theatrical tumble every now and then.

    One of those you love when he's on your side, hate when he's not. No bad thing for us.
  • No way can the disciplinary offences caused (not perpetrated) against Kermo be totally coincidental. That's why we love him of course. Powell's 2nd best signing for my money (Wiggins edges it out by being younger and thus with potential to get even better.)
  • The Oldham home game sticks in my mind - what a warrior! Terry Butcher eat your heart out!
  • Kermorgant as we know is Breton and though he has obviously plied his trade in France for most of his career I doubt that will influence his view of his regional roots.

    In the UK we do tend to sort of impose our own template on everyone when that does not really apply. When many of the current working generation were of school age schools were actually banned from teaching Breton. There is no love lost between the native Bretons and the French, but then the same could be said from the French in the north and the French in the South. Each will have its regional influences in relation to bordering cultures.

    Better historians than I will tell you the timing but I believe it was only toward the end of the 19th century French was actually universally spoken across France.

    All that said Kermorgant as a footballer is class act. Whilst obviously not the same standard he reminds me a little of my schoolboy hero Firmani, who after his spell in Italy could legally and occassionally illegally tie defenders in knots. He developed one brilliant technique of being able to stop defenders running alongside him, though the one masterclass I saw was from Cliff Holton aged 38 who absolutely destroyed a very promising centre half called Alan Stephenson at Palace with a display where he manhandled him at nearly every opportunity to the point the guy almost started to run away from him when the ball was played in.

    In comparison Kermorgant is a very welcome throw back but is really a saint.
  • He wears a Charlton shirt so always a saint but he needs to find his scoring boots or will be a bench warmer in the Championship.
  • We've had a centre forward before who was very good at rattling opponents and getting away with it much of the time. But that was back in the 70s.
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