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Dog Training Advice

I have recently bought a puppy/dog (under a year but not sure how old) from a rescue centre, he really is quite good except from 2 things one he keeps peeing up bags, black bags, carrier bags, laundry bags, luggage bags even hand bags. The other thing more seriously he keeps chewing through wires, luckily none so far have been plugged in but it could be very dangerous if he carries on, he is very nervous of us still so it is hard to punish him any advice would be appreciated. 
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  • Whisper TCE Sadie.

    (But don't ask JaShea99).
  • Could use some sort of rattle when chewing on the wires so he associates it with a horrible sound, depends how nervous you think he is for that though.
  • Talal said:

    Could use some sort of rattle when chewing on the wires so he associates it with a horrible sound, depends how nervous you think he is for that though.


    he does it when we're out when we are in he seems fine.
  • Off topic: Sorry.

    Wheres the pic of Him ?
  • Talal said:

    Could use some sort of rattle when chewing on the wires so he associates it with a horrible sound, depends how nervous you think he is for that though.



    he does it when we're out when we are in he seems fine.

    If you carried something small like one of those old black cases that holds camera film and filled it with some coins you could still use it out. Better than him getting electricuted.
  • Here he is up to no good chewed up contents of waste basket and said waste basket lol
  • I want 1 !!
    He's gorgeous !!
  • Talal said:

    Talal said:

    Could use some sort of rattle when chewing on the wires so he associates it with a horrible sound, depends how nervous you think he is for that though.



    he does it when we're out when we are in he seems fine.

    If you carried something small like one of those old black cases that holds camera film and filled it with some coins you could still use it out. Better than him getting electricuted.

    when we're out with out him lol, 
  • I want 1 !!

    He's gorgeous !!
    not sure what he is though, he is a mixture of a few i think he has wheaton terrier in him, there were 4 of them abandoned in Canterbury, he was the last one :-(( 
  • What's wrong with using it out? People do use training aids outdoors as well you know. Or would it embarress you
  • As suggested if you catch him in the act, (we used a coke bottle with pebbles in it, the noise startles them) I confess to telling ours to F*** off if caught chewing just be consistant with what you decide as a deterant Oi, No, ARrrrrgh whatever . After the event is no good, he will have forgotten as soon as he did it. If there is a particular place he favours smear Vick's sinex on the item does no harm, makes their eyes water....................


    And dont listen to MOG, Bailey wants a playmate............Get him into a training class if nothing else to get him socialised. It will also teach him some manners in dog world and the human one  : )


    Google


    Progress Dog training Sidcup as recommmended by German Shepherds ; )

  • Just looked at the picture again, I'm guessing a bit here but he could be teething.!


    Get him a teething toy, Kongs are the best but expensive. Small bones, (please do not cook them) chicken carcass will keep him occupied, once again dont cook it. The bones only become brittle when cooked.


    The chewing may also be a boredom problem, with Kongs you can fill them with treats and watch them work it out.

  • thank you, i'll give it a go
  • give him an old slipper or shoe to chew on, and make it plain it is forbidden when he chews or pees 'inappropriately'. He is certainly a lovely little dog and I hope he gives you years of pleasant companionship
  • Seriously he looks gorgeous.

  • give him an old slipper or shoe to chew on, and make it plain it is forbidden when he chews or pees 'inappropriately'. He is certainly a lovely little dog and I hope he gives you years of pleasant companionship

    The trouble being Lincs, a dog cant tell the difference between an old slipper and a new one. ; )
  • What seems to have worked with my Molly:

    1.  I leave her with a few treats in an empty card box (cereal, toothpaste or whatever) when I go out and she has great delight in shredding it to get at the treats and it distracts her from me going.  Ok so it's a mess, but it goes in the recycling bin afterwards anyway.  Never had much success with 'Kongs'.

    2.  To keep her away from wires etc. when she was young, I bought some plastic coated wire panels approx 50 x 70 cm from Homebase or a Garden Centre and tied three together to act as a fence around precious (you must not touch) areas.  They weren't that expensive and fold up for storage.

    The worse she will do now is shred a tissue if she finds one.

  • Just plug all your appliances in, he will only chew the wire one more time! :-)
  • Sorry Sadie, I missed the peeing thing last night!


    If I'm right and he's still a baby he will not have bladder control yet, therefore will only go 2 maybe 3 hours before wanting to go out, look for the signs :excessive circling, with nose down and arse up, after a drink/meal take him to the garden after exercise he will want to go.


    We were woken every 2 hours by Bailey at 3 months, one suggestion if I may? Crate training............all dogs love a den get him a crate it will teach about where and where not to mess, when he wakes from a kip straight outside he goes and when he does, plenty of praise. He'll soon associate going outside for a dump/wee is a good thing. If like Bailey he loves his crate he'll go there when he wants a bit of piece and quiet, cover it with a blanket he'll turn into his safe place. 

  • SJ 1981.....as you may know Mrs RM is a dog trainer.....I'll ask her to send some advice to you via inbox over the weekend.
  • Thank you everyone again, the bladder thing isn't too bad just the bags lol, I don't know how he was abandoned but whenever he sees a rubbish bag he pees up it and he hates being tied up so badly he will chew through every lead. So I'm guessing he was tied up and left in an alleyway or somewhere with a lot of rubbish.
  • Latest incident not happy;

    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
  • T.C.E said:

    Get him a teething toy, Kongs are the best but expensive. Small bones, (please do not cook them) chicken carcass will keep him occupied, once again dont cook it. The bones only become brittle when cooked.

    Cheers for that Ray, I have been cooking bones for ours, the above never occurred to me.
  • Latest incident not happy;


    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
    SJ, when is this happen?
    Obviously when you are not watching, but what I'm asking do you when you go out leave the dog in the lounge?
    or has he done when you've just left him briefly to put the kettle on?
  • T.C.E said:

    Get him a teething toy, Kongs are the best but expensive. Small bones, (please do not cook them) chicken carcass will keep him occupied, once again dont cook it. The bones only become brittle when cooked.

    Cheers for that Ray, I have been cooking bones for ours, the above never occurred to me.
    Benny, never give any cooked bones to your dogs, I always believe the old wives tales about not feeding chicken bones to your dogs, its the cooking that does the damage. Load bearing beef bones will knacker a dogs teeth especially a puppy, because they wont give in trying to get the marrow from it. I know Mrs Redmidland feeds her dogs on Raw food so she's the expert on that, but Bailey is not fussed but likes the odd bit of chicken and loves a frozen chicken wing or chicken lollies as Mrs TCE calls them.
  • T.C.E said:

    Latest incident not happy;


    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
    SJ, when is this happen?
    Obviously when you are not watching, but what I'm asking do you when you go out leave the dog in the lounge?
    or has he done when you've just left him briefly to put the kettle on?
    It happened early hours of the morning. I always let him stay in the lounge when we are out/ in bed and unless we leave anything on the floor or where we can get it he is generally well behaved he doesn't wee anywhere any more and never soils unless he has an upset stomach but we never had carpet down before. I have tried locking him out of the lounge with some blankets for him to lie on but he just chews the door frame trying to get in and continuously howls at the bottom of the stairs if it's the night time.
  • T.C.E said:

    Latest incident not happy;


    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
    SJ, when is this happen?
    Obviously when you are not watching, but what I'm asking do you when you go out leave the dog in the lounge?
    or has he done when you've just left him briefly to put the kettle on?
    To further the subject SJ, Bailey was crate trained from a Puppy (at about 9 weeks) and once he was house trained we folded down the crate Bailey hated it. Dogs love a den its a place of safety to them, Bailey will eat his dinner and go to bed, if he decides it time for bed he takes him self of to bed covered in a old blanket its darker and cooler then the rest of the house. To keep him occupied if you have to leave him Kongs at about a fiver filled with his favourite treats will keep entertained better still freeze them overnight, if we leave Bailey for a while we leave a radio on. Dependant on the size of your dog a crate start at about 20 quid ebay is the best place, but one thing about crates, never use the crate as a place of punishment for your dog, no matter what you dog has done it doesnt know its done wrong, it only knows what pleases you, treat every good thing he does with excitable high pitched encouragement and treats, chewing furniture is easily treated, apply Vicks vapour rub at their favourite chewing place that will stop that in a hurry it wont harm him because he wont go near it.
  • What I would suggest is something we do, wear an old teeshirt for the day and before leaving him for the night put the shirt in his bed your scent will reassure him and he will snuggle up to it, he is howling for your attention give in, and he has won! the first time you respond to the howling the game is over. Crate training is the way forward, you are making changes (new carpet) your dog dont know its new, but he knows that where he sleeps is below it. Give him a sanctuary, somewhere to call his own once he's realises its his he'll love it.
  • T.C.E said:

    What I would suggest is something we do, wear an old teeshirt for the day and before leaving him for the night put the shirt in his bed your scent will reassure him and he will snuggle up to it, he is howling for your attention give in, and he has won! the first time you respond to the howling the game is over. Crate training is the way forward, you are making changes (new carpet) your dog dont know its new, but he knows that where he sleeps is below it. Give him a sanctuary, somewhere to call his own once he's realises its his he'll love it.

    yes think I will get one, do you know of any for sale?
  • T.C.E said:

    What I would suggest is something we do, wear an old teeshirt for the day and before leaving him for the night put the shirt in his bed your scent will reassure him and he will snuggle up to it, he is howling for your attention give in, and he has won! the first time you respond to the howling the game is over. Crate training is the way forward, you are making changes (new carpet) your dog dont know its new, but he knows that where he sleeps is below it. Give him a sanctuary, somewhere to call his own once he's realises its his he'll love it.

    yes think I will get one, do you know of any for sale?
    I dont know of anyone selling one but there are loads on ebay, if your dog is still growing goes as large as you can it'll save replacing with larger at a later date, they come with a divider use it until your dog needs the room, if the crate is to big it will use one end as its toilet. Good luck.  ithttp://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A5698&rt=nc&_nkw=folding+dog+crates&_dmpt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1
  • Latest incident not happy;


    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
    Sadie:

    I'm not Happy.
    Why not use a CL tradesman ?
  • Latest incident not happy;


    Spent ages and small fortune doing up my lounge/diner brand new carpet fitted yesterday, this morning 'chewy Louie' decided it would be fun to destroy the carpet and ate a chunk out of the middle, not even the corner but actually chewed down into the middle. 

    Really do not know what to do now absolutely livid. 

    Some people are saying get rid, some are saying lock him in the hall (where I am also doing up and he likes chewing door frame, also planning on carpeting stairs soon no doubt he'll chew that too!) Others say get a crate and lock him in there, they are really expensive though.

    aaaarrrrgghhh!! :-(( 
    Sadie:

    I'm not Happy.
    Why not use a CL tradesman ?
    you a carpet fitter mog?
  • Only for the last 33 years Sadie.
    Why'd You ask ?

    ;-)
  • @Miserableoldgit, can a piece of carpet with a hole in it be "repaired" so to speak?
  • LoOkOuT said:

    @Miserableoldgit, can a piece of carpet with a hole in it be "repaired" so to speak?

    this!

    also I still have stairs landing and bedroom to carpet, lino in hallway etc
  • LoOkOuT said:

    @Miserableoldgit, can a piece of carpet with a hole in it be "repaired" so to speak?

    If it has a pattern it is possible to take up the carpet and sew a new piece inplace of the damaged area.
    With a plain carpet it is almost impossible to "hide" the joins.
  • it has a pattern and I have spare carpet ;-)
  • Alittle busy this week, but, can possibly pop in to have a look at some stage: What area do You live SadieJane ?


    (No, thats not a "chat-up" line !!)

    ;-)
  • Sittingbourne, probably out of your catchment lol.
  • he does it when we're out when we are in he seems fine.

     

    He is punishing you for leaving him alone, get a cage and put pads and toys in there. Maybe leave a radio on. Basically if you can, get him properly trained. We failed to do that, and now can't let her off her lead outside because she can't be trusted. There are people who will take him away and train him, once it's done you can enjoy the brilliant friendship of your best friend.
  • Grandpa, your comment.
    'The dog is punishing you for leaving it?
    Just my opinion ; )

    A dog is a social animal, it runs in packs it looks to you for leadership and guidence. It wants you to be pack leader if you dont take it up he will lead you. It has to taught our ways, leave it to it own devices it will run you ragged. I got told before I bought Bailey 'There is no such thing as a bad dog only a bad handler' and if you cant put the time in get a cat!
    Your assumption that SJs dog is punishing her for leaving him alone is probably wide of the mark, they simply are not clever enough to hold a grudge. I've corrected my dog many a time, we both work so he is left, he sleeps downstairs in his crate but the door is unlocked, but never once has he trashed our house. some very minor damage when he was 10/12 weeks old (chewed a frame)
    Boredom or as SJ says new carpet where the dog slept, is the more likely reason is the sleeping area has been covered. Whenever Baileys bedding is replaced we always leave the old stuff in there to get his smell on it before removing it. The new carpet has been touched by many people and has so many new smells on it and as well as that someone's laid it on top of his bed.

    Recall training, try putting her on a lunge line 10/20 metres (not one of those awful extending leads) unless your dog is no bigger than a Yorkie! Whatever is your dogs favourite toy, remove it from circulation it becomes a training aid and not a toy. When calling you dog use a ridiculously hi pitched excitable voice to call her when she gets there play tug and after a few seconds let her win a play with the toy, but get it back and put it away. Repeat two or three times every session. You have to make yourself more attractive than whatever your dog has seen. Give it a try, as you said theres not much better buzz than enjoying your dog! Well just one, doing the training yourself ; )


  • Crate Arrived today just now to get Chewy Louie into it :-)
  • Crate Arrived today just now to get Chewy Louie into it :-)

    Coax him in SJ, try putting his grub in there at feeding time leaving the door open. Leave treats in there for him to walk in help himself too. Put his toys in there and quite importantly cover it with an old blanket/curtain or something like it. Now you maybe very lucky and he may settle to it straight away, but introduce him to it between now and the weekend and as he settles start to lock the gate leave it a while and open it again............Never open it because he's whining to be let out!
    Trust me he will suss you out straight away, and realise thats what he has to do to be let out. Eventually he will realise that it his little bolt hole, his little sanctuary away from the hustle and bustle of the house and disappear at his leisure. Good luck. ; )

  • his is obviously some kind of desertion anxiety ..i had a smallish dog once who chewed her way through a sofa and ate a load of presents under a xmas tree (all in one day!!) she grew out of it and was the best dog i ll ever own

    i think the cage ,especially for a small dog is a great idea ,familiar smells and noises such as a clock/imitation heartbeat and radio left on can be helpful ,also company in the form of another dog, for practicalities sake an enclosed space sounds good but stick with him ...what a beautiful dog  
  • SJ, I found this as well.
    http://www.doglistener.co.uk/fearful_dogs/separation_anxiety.shtml

    Hope this and some of what I said will help.
  • Here's our Bailey posing after finishing his training.
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  • he's lovely TCE and looks happy :-)

    he still isn't in yet think I'll have more luck when the kids stop interfering 
  • he's lovely TCE and looks happy :-)


    he still isn't in yet think I'll have more luck when the kids stop interfering 
     Bailey is always happy when there's a camera about........

    By all means lead him to it, put his favourite treat in there, maybe a chicken wing or something. Just dont shut the door he will be suspicous at first, once he realises there's something in there he'll be
    tempted, it a case of what is stronger his fear or his hunger. Judging by his reluctance to go near it, I wouldnt try to put him in there tonight, he will scream the house down you will go and let him out because of the neighbours and all will be lost. One potential way
    around that is to put his crate in
    your room, not something I would enjoy but he will be calmer because you are there, but then you have the challenge of moving his crate back downstairs. Dont give in to him ; )
  • T.C.E.


    Thanks for your comments, we are certainly aware that we have failed to train our Tibetan Terrier as we should have done. Unfortunately I made the decision to buy what I now call my Tibetan Terrorist having rescued and taken in one of my Grandaughters who had got herself into a bad place, making my wife ill. I made the decision to buy Tootsie who is now a much loved member of the family hoping that it would help us to settle down, which I'm pleased to say we have done.


    I would be interested to know what a lunge line is, and what the advantage would be. 

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