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As most of you are aware I am a fat bstd tonight I decided to do something about it, just went for a 2 mile jog with my super slim fitness fanatic nephew, Jesus Christ I ache all over and I have committed to doing it twice this week and 3 times a week from next, god fecking help me
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  • Get a bike. You'll loose as much weight and get just as fit.

    You'll also keep your knees, ankles and hips and not end up with plastic replacements.
  • As most of you are aware I am a fat bstd tonight I decided to do something about it, just went for a 2 mile jog with my super slim fitness fanatic nephew, Jesus Christ

    That's quite a claim.
  • As most of you are aware I am a fat bstd tonight I decided to do something about it, just went for a 2 mile jog with my super slim fitness fanatic nephew, Jesus Christ I ache all over and I have committed to doing it twice this week and 3 times a week from next, god fecking help me

    My new thing. Really want to do the marathon next year so I ran in a charity 5k race in battersea park last week. Did it in 31.34 and absolutely loved it. First time I've run since ive been at school apart from doing a runner from a curry house. Did the same distance on Saturday morning although I was a minute slower! Some great websites like map my run and walk jog run where you can map routes to exact distances. Have since applied for a place in the marathon and will maintain running twice a week until the really serious stuff begins in October.
  • As most of you are aware I am a fat bstd tonight I decided to do something about it, just went for a 2 mile jog with my super slim fitness fanatic nephew, Jesus Christ I ache all over and I have committed to doing it twice this week and 3 times a week from next, god fecking help me


    If you want to lose weight stop eating as much, not nearly so painful and you'll save money.
  • im 17, i can't just jog i get bored to easily.
    so i admire the dedication i'll stick to the equally painful 5-a-side
  • thing is i aint been happy with my weight for ages but got comfy and lazy, i have been working real long hours and feeling knackerd, swo the time is right the hours wont reduce but i can do something about the tiredness, going to give it my best shot, less curry, less beer,


     


    lets see where it goes

  • clems right. road running, especially for people that are overweight is shocking for your lower joints and back.

    bike riding is better and burns more calories in less time, has less effect on your body meaning quicker recovery time and is a lot more fun.

    go swimming aswell mate if you have the time.
  • swimming in public with this gut, not a hope mate, i go riding with the kids but BFR is right less calories and more exercise
  • Lay off the aspells mate
  • swimming in public with this gut


    You are quite safe, whale hunting has been illegal for several years now.
  • Sorry NLA, swallow your pride instead of that extra pie, and get thee to a swimming pool! Great low impact exercise.
  • TBH mate, all you need to do is find out you're daily calorie needs for maintenance of your current body fat levels, then simply subtract 500 calories from that, that is how you lose weight, cardio helps when you want to get really lean, but is not necessary really, all that does is ensures that you stay under maintenance if you get what i'm saying.
      http://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html use this to find out how many calories you need to live, etc then use this equation below to find out how many calories you actually need.If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2, If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375, If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55, If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725, If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9, 
    Simple 
  • clems right. road running, especially for people that are overweight is shocking for your lower joints and back.

    bike riding is better and burns more calories in less time, has less effect on your body meaning quicker recovery time and is a lot more fun.

    go swimming aswell mate if you have the time.

    Hold up, surely if he goes jogging twice a week he'll lose some weight. Don't put the bloke off. He's only run once!
  • Today was the first day?  you say you ache.........wait and see how you feel tommorow then. You'll find it absolute murder walking down the stairs (up is the easy part). Despite how much you ache, keep at it, it soon goes. I'm also starting running again after getting lazy in mid-life. I used to do 5-7 miles on a daily basis and loved it. And just because you're running with someone who is probably a lot fitter than you, listen to your body, not him. you'll know your limits.
  • he'll lose weight stop shouting but he might feel like shit and it may put him off going regularly. just saying the bike riding is a better all round option. defo not trying to put him off.
  • It depends on how overweight you are are but i wouldn't recommend running. Cycling is without a doubt better option or maybe go to the Gym if you can put up with the extortionate fee's or the wankers that frequent the place  ) . Jogging/Running  hurts and is more likely to cause harm than make you fitter.

  • he'll lose weight stop shouting but he might feel like shit and it may put him off going regularly. just saying the bike riding is a better all round option. defo not trying to put him off.

    I know vg just having banter. As I'm new to this jogging game I know I need all the encouragement I can get. When I do something I'm unfamiliar with, if someone says I'm doing it wrong, my confidence is shot to bits. As you say, the bike could be an alternative option.
  • I run two or three times a week to supplement my martial arts training. I find it a great escape from life's worries and stresses.


    I used the above website to write a training programme for my wife based around my work shifts. She followed it closely, stuck to it and progressed onto doing 10k runs within 10 to 12 weeks. She didn't have a lot of running experience except when she was at school some years ago. If you stick at it, and get through the first 6 weeks, you can see some real improvements and may start to enjoy it.
  • Keep it up, NLA.  This is what a few months' jogging does for you... image
  • jogging is the quickest way to get the job done if you ask me - it's boring but an hour's jogging twice a week and it'll be falling off. It's true that there can be a wear and tear factor but the i reckon you need to spend 3 times the amount of time cycling or swimming to get the same results - and that really is boring - people who train for hours in a pool or on a bike are certainly a different breed - the sheer boredom of training for a marathon or a swimming event would drive me insane - there must be better things to do with your life. Good luck NLA - it's all about getting into a habit of doing it and it has to be sustainable for it to be worthwhile - i.e it just becomes part of life - like going on a crash diet - it's pointlesss if you can't sustain it.
  • he'll lose weight stop shouting but he might feel like shit and it may put him off going regularly. just saying the bike riding is a better all round option. defo not trying to put him off.

    I know vg just having banter. As I'm new to this jogging game I know I need all the encouragement I can get. When I do something I'm unfamiliar with, if someone says I'm doing it wrong, my confidence is shot to bits. As you say, the bike could be an alternative option.
    I've seen you run. Normally when it's your round.
    ;o)
  • As most of you are aware I am a fat bstd tonight I decided to do something about it, just went for a 2 mile jog with my super slim fitness fanatic nephew, Jesus Christ I ache all over and I have committed to doing it twice this week and 3 times a week from next, god fecking help me

    Get yourself a GPS watch & a heart rate monitor, log your runs & especially watch your average heart rate progressively drop as you get fitter - that's motivation enough for me!
  • You look thinner in September, Chizz, but you look much happier in the January shot! ;-)
  • I'm sure I read somewhere that you can burn 1000 calories in an hour of jogging. Which is a bigger amount than any other sport, including cycling.
  • God help your knees, especially if you're carrying a bit of weight.  Be careful, I know a few people who have wrecked their cartilage by overdoing it with the road running.  Cycling or swimming are far better in this respect.  But if it has to be running, try to remember the following:  You'll do less damage if you wear good trainers, have shock absorbent in-soles, stick to grass rather than tarmac/concrete (except at the height if summer when the hard earth can be just as wearing) and most importantly, don't overdo it!
  • Jogging will definitely burn up fat quicker than cycling or swimming. But as others have said, the risk of injury is much higher and the recovery time may be longer. The most critical thing is to get into a routine. Better to do a little often than make a huge effort early on that you can't sustain. Cycling has an advantage in that respect in that it is often easy to commute to work by bike, which is one of the best ways to fit exercise into your life without too much disruption to lifestyle. 

    If you're set on running however, what Stig said is true.
  • Get a bike. You'll loose as much weight and get just as fit.

    You'll also keep your knees, ankles and hips and not end up with plastic replacements.


    wait till you've done running for a week or so it's likely your highest risk is shin splints for now. If they kick in then look to cycling/swimming.

    Low impact gentle jogs are the best place to start and build up from there.
  • NLA, some of the sights I see in the pool, i'm sure you'll be fine

  • I'm 27 and recently started running as well as have a baby on the way and has made me want to change my unfit lifestyle.

    What worries me is that I can barely run 500 meters without being in agony. I know i'm unfit but surely I can't be that unfit! I just run round the local park which is flat but seems to be a lot more hardwork than a treadmill. I bought some running shoes which helps a lot but my lack of any sort of stamina really alarms me.

  • nichorob said:

    I'm 27 and recently started running as well as have a baby on the way and has made me want to change my unfit lifestyle.

    What worries me is that I can barely run 500 meters without being in agony. I know i'm unfit but surely I can't be that unfit! I just run round the local park which is flat but seems to be a lot more hardwork than a treadmill. I bought some running shoes which helps a lot but my lack of any sort of stamina really alarms me.

    I'd suggest slowing it down as you're maybe running instead of jogging?  If you're still having the same problem, walk if you have to, get your breath, and pick up again and keep repeating the process. Soon you'll find you're walking less and less. just remember, a gentle walk is better than stopping.

    Oh, and another thing i find very important, and that's to regulate your breating, nice, slow, deep breaths, not panting (until you train yourself not to) people tend to breath in time with their steps which speeds the heart-rate, causing tiredness.
  • Jogging is an excellent idea, I could watch it all day !

  • nichorob said:

    I'm 27 and recently started running as well as have a baby on the way and has made me want to change my unfit lifestyle.

    What worries me is that I can barely run 500 meters without being in agony. I know i'm unfit but surely I can't be that unfit! I just run round the local park which is flat but seems to be a lot more hardwork than a treadmill. I bought some running shoes which helps a lot but my lack of any sort of stamina really alarms me.

    I'd suggest slowing it down as you're maybe running instead of jogging?  If you're still having the same problem, walk if you have to, get your breath, and pick up again and keep repeating the process. Soon you'll find you're walking less and less. just remember, a gentle walk is better than stopping.

    Oh, and another thing i find very important, and that's to regulate your breating, nice, slow, deep breaths, not panting (until you train yourself not to) people tend to breath in time with their steps which speeds the heart-rate, causing tiredness.
    Thanks for the reply.

    Im definitely jogging, I think I full on sprint would see me self combust!

    Thanks for the tip on breathing, that's not something I have ever paid attention to, apart from the fact that I am usually gasping after about a minute in.

    What I will try this evening then is jogging then when that gets too much, change to a brisk walk and when I have recovered start jogging again and so forth.

    Also could somebody recommend me one of these GPS watch things? Would love to track my progress somehow, would be quite motivating.
  • Running is fine for the joints as long as you:


    A) have proper trainers not plimsoles/fashion trainers


    B) try and vary the distance/pace (worry about this one once you're established)


    C) Don't run more than two days consecutively (of course plenty of people do, but I'm talking about managing risk here)


    D) Stretch out afterwards.


    E) Look where you're going and don't fall over/get run over.


    For now I suggest sticking to the 2 miles, but look to run the same distance faster each time. Performance measurement is critical to improving fitness.


    Running is far more effective a calorie burner than swimming, especially for overweight people, since fat floats.


    Hope that helps,


    Harry (Personal Trainer since 1997).

  • +1 to getting a bike.

    Used to run, done the Run To The Beat Half Marathon with AFKA & Co 2 or 3 years ago now, enjoyed it up to the point where my knees hurt.  Ended up buying a MTB in 2009, got addicted and bought a road bike last year and started taking the cycling a bit more seriously since 1st Jan this year.

    Anyhow, with calorie comparisons between running and cycling.

    Consider the following two.  Ok, both different Garmin units (I had a Forerunner 405 for running and now use an Edge 800 on my bikes).  The last run I did of any distance was back in 2009 now and it was a fraction short of 2 hours.  Put that alongside the nearest to 2 hour ride of done this year... 9 mins difference...

    Nearly 2 hours of jogging:

    http://connect.garmin.com:80/activity/embed/4542868

    Just a fraction over 2 hours of cycling (including a Cat 4 climb):

    http://connect.garmin.com:80/activity/embed/95932741

    Of course, this isnt a scientific measured test but I burnt more calories on the bike in a similar amount of time.  I'd suggest that f you spend an hour doing each activity at the same heart rate, I would think you'd burn a very similar rate.

    For me, its about fun.  When I used to run, I used to listen to the iPod.  I'd download a good few albums a week and put my mind to listening to every single one of them during that week.  Now, I break my cycling training up.  I cycle solo twice a week, do two or three interval sessions on the turbo to build up power and stamina and then I cycle two or three times a week with my cycling club.

    nichorob said:

    I'm 27 and recently started running as well as have a baby on the way and has made me want to change my unfit lifestyle.

    What worries me is that I can barely run 500 meters without being in agony. I know i'm unfit but surely I can't be that unfit! I just run round the local park which is flat but seems to be a lot more hardwork than a treadmill. I bought some running shoes which helps a lot but my lack of any sort of stamina really alarms me.

    Have a look at the beginner running plans on Runners World.  I started with their 0-30min non stop running program in 6 weeks 3 or 4 years ago now.  Seriously, I couldnt even run around the block when I started that.  My friend started running 6 months ago, previously hated running and now he's running for 60mins non stop and does his first ever 10k in a few weeks.  Everyone has to start somewhere.
  • Nichorob; don't want to worry you but if you think your stamina is shit now then wait until after your kiddie comes along! Good time to be doing something about it - wish I had!
  • Thanks for the advice chaps, baby was due yesterday so not got that much time!
  • Off_it said:

    he'll lose weight stop shouting but he might feel like shit and it may put him off going regularly. just saying the bike riding is a better all round option. defo not trying to put him off.

    I know vg just having banter. As I'm new to this jogging game I know I need all the encouragement I can get. When I do something I'm unfamiliar with, if someone says I'm doing it wrong, my confidence is shot to bits. As you say, the bike could be an alternative option.
    I've seen you run. Normally when it's your round.
    ;o)
    Mate, your road is on my route. Be prepared for a little knock on the door in the next few days!
  • NLA - If you have a smart phone/iphone get the RunKeeper app, it maps your route via GPS, it gives you times, distance etc. and you can save your times so as you progress you can see the improvement, also if you want to build explosive stamina try the 4 minute run, fast running (not quite sprinting) for 30 seconds, then 30 seconds walking, fast running for 30 seconds, walking 30 seconds, repeat this up to 4 minutes total (2 mintes fast running, 2 minutes walking). They tested this routine against someone who jogged for 2 miles a day and the people that did the sprint/walk training lost body weight faster and their lung capcity improved over regular joggers, I do this kind of training 'cos I have a knackered ankle (old football injury) and prolonged hard impact jogging murders it.


    Whatever you choose to do keep it up, when its pissing with rain still go out!! Good Luck!

  • I felt really achey this morning but i felt a lot better for getting off my arse and doing something, Chizz Motivation enough in those pics well done mate top work, I cycle regularly with the kids, the other weekend did just under 40 miles along the River Lea out to Rye house and back, but it doesnt seem to do anything, might be the amount of beer consumed after the cycling,


     


    Gonna really work at it, new trainers are a must so i will get them 2nite,


     


    nephew will keep me in check so i wont fall away i reckon, got the night walk in mind for the cancer charity later on in the year so focus a must

  • my best mate is a long distance runner does the marathon in sub 3hrs. he has often tried to get me out with him!! the advice he gave me and those who know me know that i make chris moyles look skinny was this:


    You CANNOT go from zero to running straight away you will do untold damage to yourself internally and externally. make a plan. week one walk around the block twice, or long enough to get a sweat on, 2 to 3 times a week, week two set a time limit and try to match or beat it twice around the block again 2 to 3 times a week. week 3 try a gentle jog  for one lap then walk the second lap do not set time limits, do this until you are comfortable getting around lap 1 with out to much huff and puff, then week 4 you can attemp jogging twice around the block and so on.. build up gradually and within a month or so your body will be ready to do some serious running. if you go from zero to running 2/3 miles you will get injured and could do some damage and give up running.


     


    this is what he says and he has done back to back marthons and knows what he is on about.

  • Adam


     


    Good advice

  • i find running tedious and get a stitch so quickly
  • I agree about the jogging. I shifted four stone with a combination of simply cutting back on the food and running. Went down from 15st to 11st, I'm around 12.5st now though. Been meaning to get back running again, but my left knee is shot. What I do in the meantime is walk up Primrose Hill then right round Regent's Park every lunch time (I work in Camden), then walk to Euston every evening after work, rather than just getting on the tube at Camden Town. I'm not losing weight, as such, but keeping it level and maintaining a bit of fitness.

    I went running twice last week and I was absolutely f*cked afterwards.

    What Adam above said is true. I went from zero to two miles last week - afterwards, stomach ache, muscle ache, knee ache, the lot. You do have to build it up slowly.
  • Just walked out to my kitchen for a sausage sandwich. Feel really full now.
    :o)
  • Off_it said:

    Just walked out to my kitchen for a sausage sandwich. Feel really full now.

    :o)

    That's the spirit. Maybe you could burn it off by walking to the Charcoal Burner!
  • Might get a bus there.
  • i bloody hate running.

    Id rather do an evil spin class than run anywhere.  Hate it.
  • bren, my old boss Jacquie used to go to spin class twice a week, i guinenely thought it involved a room full of women in leotards standing on the spot and spininng like you did when you where a kid till you fell over, i had conversations with people into how exactly spinning makes you fit until one day there was an emercancy at work and i had to go to the gym to find her, and instead of women spinning like children i found a room full of odd bycyles and people having heart attacks! dont tell anyone tho because people will think im an idiot!!
  • As if we didn't think that already.
  • Cheers Rich, have you chosen your new look wardbrobe for the 2011/12 season? these might be of interest


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